Kimmy and Liza discuss ULTIMATUMS - do they ever work, have we ever given one, have we ever received one, and wtf is up with that Netflix show? We also discuss this article by Madeline Howard: https://www.womenshealthmag.com/relationships/a39642936/do-ultimatums-work-in-relationships/. Follow us @51FirstDatesPod on Instagram! Send your worst first date stories to 51firstdatespod@gmail.com. Subscribe to our Substack at https://preciousgems.substack.com/. And don't forget to join our secret Facebook group!Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices