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Up is Down, Down is Up (Guest: Former Michigan GOP Chair Rusty Hills)

Up is Down, Down is Up (Guest: Former Michigan GOP Chair Rusty Hills)

Released Thursday, 14th August 2025
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Up is Down, Down is Up (Guest: Former Michigan GOP Chair Rusty Hills)

Up is Down, Down is Up (Guest: Former Michigan GOP Chair Rusty Hills)

Up is Down, Down is Up (Guest: Former Michigan GOP Chair Rusty Hills)

Up is Down, Down is Up (Guest: Former Michigan GOP Chair Rusty Hills)

Thursday, 14th August 2025
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JEFF TIMMER, former Executive Director of the Michigan Republican Party, is a political, public affairs and communications strategist who has spent 30 years in the trenches of Michigan and national politics. He has advised and directed hundreds of legislative, congressional, statewide political and ballot issue campaigns. He was an advisor to Ohio Governor John Kasich's 2016 presidential campaign.Jeff is a leading redistricting expert and has been an advisor to Speakers of the Michigan House, Michigan Senate Majority Leaders, the Michigan House and Senate Republican campaign committees, and the Michigan Republican Party.He is co-founder of Republicans and Independents for Biden, and is a senior advisor to the Lincoln Project.MARK BREWER served for 18 years as chair or executive chair of the Michigan Democratic Party and as a member of the Democratic National Committee. He's been a delegate to 5 Democratic National Conventions. He has been involved in a wide variety of election cases since the 1980s including county, legislative and congressional redistricting, presidential primaries/caucuses, recalls, recounts, ballot access, voter protection on Election Day and the protection of the right to vote a straight party ticket. Markโ€™s ballot question work ranges from city to county to statewide on topics from the minimum wage, earned sick leave and community benefits to straight party voting, tax reform, redistricting, campaign finance and ethics reform, and county charter government.

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