Welcome to the episode description, the secret place where I (Ethan) share my thoughts on the episode.

Wow, Darek is such a wise dude. He has soooo much perspective on the industry. He is talking about META stuff on the podcast haha. Not only did we talk about what it takes to make it in the business, but we talked about what the next step after that is. And why it's so important to be writing songs or producing to be able to make money even when you aren't on the road.

I hope you enjoyed the show! If so, it would help a TON if you left a review. Your charity of 30 seconds goes a really long way to help the show get noticed by Apple. Thanks for reading.

- Ethan