We all live in our own world.  Yes must of us share the basic concepts that have been ingrained into us by our culture and our experiences in this life, but all of us have our own unique view of the world in which we live.  Although most agree on what makes the world work, what the natural order of things are, there are some of us with a different perspective.  There are some of us who can see through the veil, through the illusion.  This podcast tackles some tough concepts on how we view the world. What our definition of real is. And ultimately how to have a happier life. The challenge is how do we overcome our programming, our views, our fears to see a better life.  We both want a better human existence we just have two different approaches and this podcast highlights some of them.  If you like what you hear please share if you would like to communicate with us email us both @ bewithJandJ@gmail.com