This episode of the #citizenweb3 podcast features David Pinger from Warden ProtocolDavid Pinger envisions a future where AI and blockchain merge to enable trust-minimized, autonomous systems. Known for saying “blockchain isn’t for humans,” he challenges conventional thinking with a bold, machine-first perspective.Warden Protocol is a Layer-1 blockchain designed for secure, verifiable AI integration with smart contracts and autonomous agents. It enables AI-driven applications to operate across multiple chains in a trust-minimized way.We spoke to David Pinger (https://x.com/WorldWideWarden) about Warden Protocol (https://x.com/wardenprotocol) and:Decentralized trust minimized financial systemConverging of blockchain and AIThe shoes of the founderMajority of startups failBlockchain as a panaceaBlockchain isn't for humansBlockchain and AI can't naturally talk to each otherA wave of a new generation of applicationsExercise or go crazy Timestamps 00:00 – 05:47 : Intro 05:47 -- 10:00 : Valuable lessons brought to Web310:00 -- 11:41 : Web3 vs Web2 founders 11:41 -- 13:40 : Developers vs community13:40 -- 23:00 : Blockchain change23:00 -- 27:20 : AI centralization27:20 -- 33:25 : Hype33:25 -- 38:33 : Optimism, Hope and technology38:33 -- 48:00 : Tribalism and building community48:00 -- 52:25 : To be a validator 52:25 -- 58:12 : The BlitzIf you like what we do at Citizen Web3:Stake with Citizen Web3 validator (https://www.citizenweb3.com/staking)Listen to the YouTube version (https://youtu.be/S2gIpYeYL88)Follow us on Twitter (https://x.com/citizen_web3)Sign up to the RSS feed (https://www.citizenweb3.com/rss)Special Guest: David Pinger.