In this powerful episode, Shay sits down with Ryan Deiss, Founder and CEO of The Scalable Company and the visionary behind Traffic & Conversion Summit and DigitalMarketer.com.

You’ve seen Ryan on stage. You’ve probably used his frameworks. But today, he shares the untold story behind the brand that changed marketing—and what it cost him to walk away.

This isn’t another funnel-hacking interview. It’s a real look at identity, burnout, and how to scale beyond the spotlight.

You’ll learn:

• The truth about building Traffic & Conversion Summit
• Why he sold the most iconic stage in digital marketing
• What he’d do differently if he started over today
• How he’s now building legacy-driven businesses that don’t rely on him

If you’re ready to scale your impact without sacrificing yourself, this episode will change how you think about growth.

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