Frank and Len creep ever so closer to show 100. On show 98, the first episode of 2020, we welcome Jeff Jingle. Jeff is a freelance writer/director and Animatronic FX Designer who has worked for Rick Baker's Cinovation, Henson Studio, Steve Johnson's XFX, Legacy FX among many others. Jeff talks about getting the movie  he co-wrote 10 Minutes Gone starring Bruce Willis and Michael Chiklis and how it's a little miracle just to get it produced. Thanks for listening!