Hosts Nina dos Santos and Owen Bennett-Jones are joined by crypto journalist Matt Binder and longtime observer of U.S. politics and policy Edward Luce to explore the staggering wealth being generated by the Trump family’s crypto empire.

We also hear from Sergei Sergienko, a crypto entrepreneur who has made and lost hundreds of millions in the crypto markets. Sergei has also faced down gangsters who tried to extort his wealth—an attack that mirrors a recent spate of kidnappings and abductions of crypto players in Paris.

Join us for a modern tale of global grift that is changing how the American presidency can function and do deals on the world stage.

Guests

Matt Binder – Journalist and host of the Scam Economy podcast

Edward Luce – U.S. national editor and columnist at the Financial Times. His forthcoming biography of Zbigniew Brzezinski, Zbig: The Life of Zbig Brzezinski, America’s Great Power Prophet, will be published in May 2025 by Simon & Schuster (U.S.) and Bloomsbury (U.K.).

Sergei Sergienko – CEO at Chrono.tech; Australian entrepreneur and leading blockchain expert

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