She didn’t just play for England. She bled for it. Netball star turned litigator Ebony Usoro-Brown drops the truth about legacy, leadership, and why knowing your values is your ultimate power move.

What happens when elite sport ends and “real life” begins?

In this raw, unscripted episode, Dave and Debbie sit down with Ebony Usoro-Brown—former England netball champion, Gold Coast gold medallist, commercial litigator, and mum of two—to talk about ambition, identity, and what happens after you’ve lived your dream.

With 117 caps for England, a career in law, and wisdom forged in four-year cycles of pressure and purpose, Ebony brings the kind of perspective most leadership books only dream of.

She’s not here to inspire you she’s here to challenge you.

This one’s not for the faint-hearted. It’s for the listener who’s ready to own their values, lead without compromise, and stop waiting for permission to grow.

Why listen to this episode?

• You’re sick of hearing ‘resilience’ and want to feel it

• You’re figuring out who you are when the title, team, or job disappears

• You want to understand how real values beat performative purpose every time

• You’re navigating transition—and want a playbook with honesty, not fluff

• You’re a leader, a parent, a player, or a person who knows there’s more in you than what you’ve done so far

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• Mic Drop Moments

  • “117 caps mean something but they also mean 117 times I had to prove myself.”

  • “Failure teaches you how to win. If you let it.”

  • “In sport, we’re coached to listen. In business, everyone wants to talk.”

  • “Your values don’t just guide your decisions they set your boundaries.”

  • “Athletes give everything to the badge on the front. But who are you when that badge is gone?”

  • “Self-discipline isn’t punishment. It’s the price of purpose.”

  • “Sport didn’t make me a mum but it taught me how to lead my kids.”

  • “Gratitude isn’t soft. It’s a strategy.”

  
  

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