This episode is a follow on from the previous episode, During our visit to the Action Day for Nature I went on a guided tour around the site. I must say it was an inspirational guide to what can be done to share our amenity spaces with nature. Full credit needs to given to the Yorkshire Wildlife Trust, and Andy Steele, who has done such sterling work at the rugby ground.

But that isn't really what this episode is about, even though it takes place in that wonderful naturally managed space. Nor is it really an interview. At the end of the tour I fell into conversation with Janna, as we took a woodland walk around the edge of the field, ending back at the exhibition stalls. We'd both been invited to contribute some of our expertise by Andy during his talk, so it wasn't surprising that we should end up in conversation.

As it happened I'd left my mic on. Don't get me wrong I am a pro! and towards the end of the chat it became a formal interview, of sorts,.The recording starts at the end of the tour, with Janna recommending a bird identifier app, it's an unedited start - and it was just as spontaneous as it sounds This is a wide ranging conversation; about wild food, nature recording and our relationship with nature, even in the heart of a city

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