On this episode of ETM, Nick Hail invites hypnotist Thomas Budge to the show. They discuss whether hypnosis is the same as what we see on TV, how governments have used hypnosis to spy and assassinate opposition, how trauma can affect one's current situations, why Nick Hails believes that some forms of therapy fuel depression, big pharma's relation to medical diagnosis, and how managing one's expectations may be a hack to having a gracious life.