Part 1 of this talk, the whole ep is available now on Patreon at Http://www.patreon.com/givingthemic. -We revisit our episode from early pandemic, talking to grade school and community college educators about what we've learned(if anything) about teaching kids and ESL since then. Derick Varn, Melisa Crosby, and my sister Beth Salmon have a stimulating conversation about educator burnout, where online teaching worked well, and more. -Check out Derick Varn at VarnVlog: https://www.youtube.com/c/CDerickVarnVlog-Help us make the show!www.patreon.com/givingthemic-Find us on Twitter: www.twitter.com/givingthemic-Questions/comments/suggestions for great local Korean food: givingthemic@gmail.com-facebook.com/givingthemic/- -Main theme by The Mysterious Breakfast'r Cereal on SoundCloud @chiptheme- -All items trademarked and copyright their respective owners. Please don't sue. Please don't sue. Please don't sue.