With the Katowice Climate Change Conference (COP 24) kicking off next week, this interview with Dr. Sander Chan from the Deutsches Institut für Entwicklungspolitik (German Development Institute) is a timely reflection on the role of sub-state and non-state action on climate change. Deputy Editor Emma Lecavalier discusses the conditions for successful non-state climate action and whether or not these forms of action can be resilient in the face of state retrenchment.