In this episode we sat down with Emily Arnold (former ministry leader at Saddleback Church, Community Manager at the Speaker Lab) to talk about:

• Her journey into ministry at Saddleback Church and all of the compounding factors that led her to leave,

• The sense of belonging and identity that having a role in church create,

• Becoming honest about the human parts of us we ignore while in ministry,

• And Emily’s journey of finding her new career in and her full authentic self leaving ministry.