In the episode of MIB, Steve and Joel are joined by Terri Moyers, Chris Wagner and Densie Ernst to explore how skillful do you need to be at MI to be hopeful. This conversation compliments up our last episode on "Harmology". We hope you find this discussion stimulating and enjoyable. 

We could not do MIB without the generous support of the team at the Department of Behavioral Sciences and Social Support at Florida State University. 

Thanks for listening! 
Joel & Steve