This episode is an interview with Tiago Bertrand, CEO of Everything VR. I found out about Tiago's work through the In Protest series, a collaborative project between GRX Immersive Labs and VR for Good, a subset of Oculus. We talk about VR as an empathy machine, where VR is going, where it is now, and where it's been. We also talk about 360 video as an extension of the act of protest, and the pluralistic nature of VR videos. Thanks for listening, and I hope you enjoy.