In this episode of re:invent security, we sit down with Arnaud Wiehe (Managing Director of Information Security at FedEx) and Tiago Teles (Head of Advanced Analytics & AI at ABN AMRO), co-authors of Emerging Tech, Emerging Threats, to explore what it truly means to lead in cybersecurity amid accelerating innovation.

From the explosive rise of GenAI and deepfakes to third-party risk at scale and secure-by-design realities—this conversation unpacks the practical and philosophical shifts modern CISOs must embrace. Arnaud and Tiago reflect on the evolving role of the security leader: no longer the “department of no,” but a proactive enabler of innovation.

We cover the threats shaping today’s landscape, including AI-generated phishing, insider risks, and automation-driven attacks—and how data quality, awareness, and defense-in-depth are now non-negotiable. Equally, we explore how security professionals must stay ahead not by fearing technology, but by experimenting with it—even when it might not succeed.

Whether you're a seasoned security executive or an aspiring leader, this is a must-listen conversation about redefining relevance, staying ahead of risk, and embracing the future before it embraces you. Tune in and ask yourself: how are you staying curious?

Chapters:

00:00 – 04:11 - Intro, Meet the Guests & Why This Topic Matters

04:12 – 08:39 - Writing the Book: Reinvention, Mindset, and Co-Authoring

08:40 – 15:04 - The Speed of Innovation: Why CISOs Must Stay Ahead of Tech

15:05 – 22:04 - From “Department of No” to Tech Enabler

22:03 – 28:04 - AI, Data & Security: Practical Use Cases that Work Today

28:05 – 33:52 - The Curious CISO: A New Model for Leadership

33:53 – 44:32 - Security by Design: The Real-World Playbook

44:33 – 53:43 - The Threats Are Here: Deepfakes, AI-Phishing & What's Next

53:44 – 58:32 - Final Takeaways & Challenge to Security Leaders

Resources:

* The Future Is Faster Than You Think: How Converging Technologies Are Disrupting Business, Industries, and Our Lives by Peter H. Diamandis, Steven Kotler, et al.

Connect with Arnaud: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arnaudwiehe/

Connect with Tiago: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tiagoteles/

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