Sometimes second starts can mean a return to an unexplored interest or passion. And at other times life changes aren't voluntary and can involve deeply personal sacrifices. Either way, the decision to begin a new chapter in life is never easy. In Episode 2 of Second Start Joel talks about his painstaking choice to lay off his last employee--and close friend--Rob Kirwan, and sits down with David Vos, a fellow producer, to chat about his whimsical foray into filming himself cook, iPhone in one hand, spoon in another.
Podchaser is the ultimate destination for podcast data, search, and discovery. Learn More