We start with an intro where Olivia and Ari talk about Dr. Tanu's nature awareness practice from the last episode, which includes a very funny/terrifying story about a rat. We also analyze Ari's tendency to cry easily, and Love Island is referenced liberally.

Our actual interview (beginning around the 20 minute mark) is with Jake Elitzer. We talk about his Jewish roots, his experience with medicinal psilocybin, his struggle to receive love, and how being disabled has affected his artistic journey. It's an emotional ride, but one filled with insights and a unique perspective. Hopefully by the end, Jake Elitzer is a little less mysterious to you.

Things We Talk About In This Episode:

The book Jake mentions with the questions "Is it true? Is it absolutely true?" is "Loving What Is" by Byron Katie

Shakespeare Forum: https://www.theshakespeareforum.org/

Our email address so you can tell Ari how you feel about Amaya from Love Island (or do the practices with us! Even better!): spoda.contact@gmail.com

Follow us on IG: @spodapod

Hosted by Olivia Spirz and Ari Hader

Beautiful music by Doug Harvey