Living Multi-Centered

In this thought-provoking episode of Stepping In, host Adam Klein engages with DEIB experts Dr. Kevin Sansberry and Fran about the evolving landscape of diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging. Their conversation explores the delicate balance between individual identity and collective transformation in today's increasingly divided world.

Episode Highlights

Personal Journeys (00:07:43)Kevin shares his path of self-reclamation as a Black man in systems not designed for him, while Fran describes evolving from seeking personal safety as "a super weird queer kid" to seeing their "liberation tied up in that of someone else." These contrasting yet complementary journeys illuminate how both self-knowledge and collective responsibility serve the same goal.

The Art of Deep Listening (00:21:31)The guests explore transformative listening that pauses, suspends judgment, and creates space for change. As Kevin explains, effective leaders must "suspend preconceived judgments" to be genuinely changed by what they hear. Fran adds that we must retrain ourselves to hear perspectives different from our own equally.

Listening to the Margins (00:28:25)Fran emphasizes the importance of attending to voices "at the margins," sharing how a CEO dismissed concerns from a small group of Black women employees as "just a few people." Their powerful response: "The nature of this perspective is that it comes from a minority of your people, and that is why you should listen to it."

Equity: The Surprisingly Taboo Conversation (00:34:02)Kevin expresses surprise at how "taboo equity is" in many contexts. Using the example of a wheelchair ramp, he illustrates how equity creates access rather than unfair advantage. The conversation directly confronts the myth of meritocracy, revealing how career advancement often depends on "pre-existing relationships" rather than performance alone.

Building Bridges Through Human Connection (00:59:22)As DEIB faces political headwinds, both guests emphasize authentic connection across differences. Fran notes that "our remit headed into this new calendar year is to bring folks closer," while Kevin observes that many divisions stem from "narratives and not real-life experiences."

Collective Actualization (01:08:40)The conversation concludes with a vision of "collective actualization"—evolving beyond individual self-actualization toward systemic transformation. Kevin brings things full circle: "If you don't even know who you are in this space... it's gonna be hard for you to join the collective."

About the Host and New Ventures West

Adam Klein is an Integral Coach, facilitator, and educator dedicated to creating spaces for transformative learning. As faculty with New Ventures West, Adam brings deep expertise in Integral Coaching to his work with individuals and organizations.

New Ventures West is a premier coaching organization founded in 1987, dedicated to developing coaches who can meet complex challenges with wisdom and compassion through their innovative Integral Coaching® methodology.