The Constant podcast host, German Dziebel, and Professor Shi Huang are discussing Huang's Maximum Genetic Diversity Theory and the Out-of-Asia theory of modern human origins and their advantages over the mainstream Neutral Theory and the Out-of-Africa model. From Theodosius Dobzhansky and Luca L. Cavalli-Sforza to the Pongid clade and owl monkeys, from uniparental and autosomal markers and convergence vs. shared descent in genetics, Shi Huang and German Dziebel cover a vast range of issues to challenge dominant paradigms and rejuvenate the debate around human evolution.