BT introduces the Nag Hammadi series on Chicken Philosophy, then interviews Kess Frey for the ninth time (kind of). Topics include "Sometimes Brilliant" by Larry Brilliant, Swami Amar Jyoti and the guru/disciple relationship, "The Secret of the Golden Flower" translated by Richard Wilhelm, Carl Jung's commentary, Thomas Keating's Centering Prayer, and the Tree of Mandalas.