Making Bitcoin cheap to spend with Ark

Making Bitcoin cheap to spend with Ark

Released Sunday, 10th August 2025
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Making Bitcoin cheap to spend with Ark

Making Bitcoin cheap to spend with Ark

Making Bitcoin cheap to spend with Ark

Making Bitcoin cheap to spend with Ark

Sunday, 10th August 2025
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Welcome back to The Gwart Show! Today, Alex B from Ark Labs joins us to talk about the Ark protocol and Arkade implementation - a Bitcoin layer 2 that uses transaction batching and virtual UTXOs to scale Bitcoin beyond Lightning. We explore how Ark competes with roll-ups, enables Bitcoin capital markets, and could transform Lightning's UX while maintaining self-custody. Alex explains the technical innovations, use cases from payments to lending, and why this could be Bitcoin's answer to Ethereum's scaling solutions.

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NOTES:

• Phoenix wallet charges 0.4% per transaction

• Bitcoin market cap reached $2 trillion

• Roll-ups rely on bridge security assumptions

• Ark enables unlimited swap throughput

Chapters:

00:00 Start

01:03 What is Ark?

13:34 Sequencers

16:15 Why rollups?

23:47 Security Counsel

28:17 Ellipsis Labs

29:18 EVM vs Ark

35:41 Arkade's killer app

51:30 Bitcoin payments

1:02:17 All innovation comes back to Bitcoin

1:12:12 Fragmented liquidity

1:15:35 Open source

1:19:42 Wen Arkade beta?

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