Stephen returns to the Pod Show to play a new game showcasing the unique etymology of life at The Late Show before launching into his extended conversation with poet, bestselling author and McArthur Genius Grant recipient Ocean Vuong. His latest book, "The Emperor of Gladness," is available now. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policyLearn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices