Wayne Grudem and John Piper are prominent voices within evangelical theology. Leading up to the 2020 presidential election, they had a friendly debate about whether evangelicals should vote for Trump. In this two-part episode, Maggie, Joel and Tyler look back on this debate and evaluate the arguments. Did Trump's character disqualify him from the evangelical vote? What about the importance of policy? Why worry about presidential character anyway? Is Biden any better? Were Grudem and Piper sufficiently sensitive to race issues in their discussion? (and, gosh, if we had only waited one more day to record we could have incorporated the Capitol riots into the discussion! smh).