In this episode, Jonathan welcomes somatic therapist Pierre Bouchard for a rich, unfiltered conversation on the true depth of somatic work and going beyond trauma healing. Together they explore the intersection of psychology, spirituality, and psychedelics through Pierre’s model of the X, Y, and Z axes: trauma resolution, awakening, and relational responsibility.

They discuss the rise (and pitfalls) of somatics in popular culture, the limits of insight-only therapy, and why the body is more than just a trauma container - it’s the gateway to all experience.

Whether you’re a seeker, a practitioner, or simply someone on the path, this episode challenges reductionist thinking and invites a deeper, more integrated approach to healing and awakening.

Topics Covered:

• Somatic work beyond trauma

• The "missing experience" and reparenting

• Dharma vs. developmental work

• Ego dissolution vs. ego death

• The true cost of bypassing relational work

• What psychedelics can—and can’t—do for us

🎧 Listen now and explore why your body is not just holding your trauma, it's holding your transformation.

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