Eric Kampmann, founder of Republic Books, and noted journalist Alec Klein return to the show for another segment of Trail Thoughts. The two talk about their experiences of living in New York, a city that has been turned into a virtual ghost town thanks to the pandemic. “Cities are fragile things,” Eric says as he reflects on how the once vibrant city of New York has fallen. Can New York recover from the shutdown? What can we learn from the changes that are taking place in some of our country’s major urban centers?