E168 When Science Meets the Spirit?

E168 When Science Meets the Spirit?

Released Monday, 11th August 2025
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E168 When Science Meets the Spirit?

E168 When Science Meets the Spirit?

E168 When Science Meets the Spirit?

E168 When Science Meets the Spirit?

Monday, 11th August 2025
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Ever wondered if remote viewing is just government psy-op weirdness, or WHAT!? In this episode, we welcome back Matthew McGuire—biblical scholar turned parapsychology researcher—to help us sort through the controversy. We explore remote viewing from its scientific roots in the Rhine Research Center and military intelligence units, to its surprising parallels with Christian spiritual gifts like prophecy and words of knowledge. From biblical examples to Watchman Nee’s take on the latent power of the soul, this one hits every angle: theology, science, history, and controversy. Whether you're curious, skeptical, or already peeking through the veil, this episode is an eye-opener.

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Timestamps:

00:06 Navigating the tension of faith and caution
 01:59 What is remote viewing?
 02:44 History of parapsychology and its Christian overlaps
 04:48 Empirical evidence and scientific classification
 05:47 Defining remote viewing from a parapsychology lens
 07:26 Comparing charismatic gifts and psychic ability
 09:49 Matt’s personal research journey and resources
 12:08 Mechanics of remote viewing vs. spiritual gifts
 14:30 Signal, noise, and analytical overlay
 16:50 Prophetic missteps and community interpretation
 19:15 Biblical school of prophets and sanctification
 21:37 Watchman Nee and latent power of the soul
 24:04 Soul powers pre-fall and spiritual caution
 26:29 Trauma, programming, and remote viewing triggers
 28:45 Evangelical fear vs. divine sovereignty
 31:08 Divination in Scripture and biblical nuance
 33:30 The role of intention in discerning practices
 35:43 Trance, ecstasy, and biblical precedent
 38:04 Response to critiques and misinformation
 40:31 The matrix vs. spirit guides in RV
 42:54 Spiritual gifts vs. trained psychic ability
 45:10 Elisha, the king's bedroom, and biblical examples
 47:31 Warning against ego-driven pursuit of power
 49:50 Brandon’s 3-part Jesus model: gifts, character, discipleship
 50:58 Sensory deprivation and altered states
 53:22 Worship, water, and spiritual receptivity
 55:36 Practical resources to learn about RV
 58:02 Upcoming classes and Christian saints in parapsychology
 59:55 Final thoughts and where to find Matt online

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