Designing Inclusive Spaces with Tom Gray MCIAT and Fern Lulham | 009

Designing Inclusive Spaces with Tom Gray MCIAT and Fern Lulham | 009

Released Friday, 27th June 2025
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Designing Inclusive Spaces with Tom Gray MCIAT and Fern Lulham | 009

Designing Inclusive Spaces with Tom Gray MCIAT and Fern Lulham | 009

Designing Inclusive Spaces with Tom Gray MCIAT and Fern Lulham | 009

Designing Inclusive Spaces with Tom Gray MCIAT and Fern Lulham | 009

Friday, 27th June 2025
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Welcome to Where it's AT | the Architectural Technology Podcast

In this episode hosted by Tom Gray MCIAT, Chartered Architectural Technologist, the conversation centres on inclusive design and its emotional and functional impacts on people with disabilities. Guest, psychotherapist, speaker, and BBC broadcaster Fern Lulham, who is blind, shares her experiences growing up with messages of resilience and equality but notes the practical challenges and emotional toll of navigating spaces not designed with accessibility in mind. The discussion extends to the need for creativity, courage, and connection in architectural design, emphasising that thoughtful design should empower and include everyone. Fern and Tom also discuss specific examples like public toilets and airport wayfinding to highlight how design decisions can significantly affect the lives and self-esteem of people with disabilities.

00:00 Introduction

01:00 Guest Introduction: Fern Lulham

01:52 Messages from Childhood

02:59 Navigating the World Differently

05:53 Loneliness and Ideal Self

10:28 Challenges in the Built Environment

18:37 The Importance of Inclusive Design

25:39 Final Thoughts and Closing

Key Takeaways

Inclusive Design Benefits Everyone: Designing spaces that are accessible to all people, including those with disabilities, helps everyone feel welcome and valued. It’s not just about meeting practical needs but ensuring that everyone can participate equally.

Emotional Impact of Design: The way a space is designed can greatly affect a person's self-esteem and confidence. Poorly designed environments can make people feel excluded and frustrated, while thoughtful design can foster a sense of belonging and independence.

Curiosity and Courage in Design: Designers should always be open to new ways of thinking and not be afraid to try different approaches. Collaborating with those who have different experiences, such as people with disabilities, can lead to better and more inclusive solutions.

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Podcast recorded and edited by: Jon Clayton [Podcasting]

Disclaimer

The contents and views expressed by individuals in the Where it's AT podcast are their own, and do not necessarily represent the views of the companies they work for or the Host. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered as advice.

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