Let’s talk about communication — not just the “how to talk so people listen” kind, but the kind that actually helps you feel more understood, less reactive, and more in control of your emotions and relationships.
This week, I’m joined by the incredible Debra Roberts, LCSW — licensed clinical social worker, communication expert, and creator of The Relationship Protocol. We dig into everything from setting boundaries around how people speak to you (and how you let people make you feel), to understanding the difference between emotional and trauma reactions, and how to navigate conflict without losing your cool.
Debra shares tools for overcoming the “I can’t” mindset, rebuilding confidence after failure, and responding with clarity when you feel challenged — whether that’s in your personal life or at work. Oh, and if you’ve ever heard of The Let Them Theory... we’re unpacking that, too.
This conversation is packed with real-life takeaways to help you stop spiraling and start communicating with intention — even when it’s hard.

 Ready to level up your communication?
Debra is offering Why Not #DoBoth listeners 10% off her personal communication program, My Communication Tools® — an affordable, self-paced course designed to help you feel more confident and less overwhelmed in conversations that matter.
Use code DOBOTH at checkout! MyCommunicationTools.com<https://www.therelationshipprotocol.com/my-communication-tools-debra-roberts>
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Connect with Debra:
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LinkedIn: Debra Roberts, LCSW<https://www.linkedin.com/in/debraroberts-lcsw>Enjoyed this episode? Check out kelliesbrocchi.com and follow me on IG at ⁠⁠⁠@kellie.sbrocchi⁠⁠⁠! Loved the show ⁠⁠⁠@doboth.podcast⁠⁠⁠? Leave a review and let me know what you learned—I'd love to hear from you! #DoBoth