Exit Interviews Are a Waste of Time

Exit Interviews Are a Waste of Time

Released Tuesday, 12th August 2025
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Exit Interviews Are a Waste of Time

Exit Interviews Are a Waste of Time

Exit Interviews Are a Waste of Time

Exit Interviews Are a Waste of Time

Tuesday, 12th August 2025
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Today on HR Heretics, Nolan and Kelli critically examine the effectiveness and limitations of traditional exit interviews as organizational diagnostic tools, questioning their performative nature and strategic value.

*Email us your questions or topics for Kelli & Nolan: hrheretics@turpentine.co

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(00:42) The Performative Checkbox Problem

(01:38) The Fear Factor: Why Employees Won't Tell the Truth

(02:39) The Real Exit Interview

(04:06) The Drug Story: When Exit Interviews Actually Work

(06:06) The Diagnostic Fallacy

(07:18) The Neutral Feedback Myth

(08:47) The Art of Information Filtering

(10:35) Sponsors: Planful | Metaview

(13:43) The Future People Leader Debate

(16:49) Captain vs. Crew: Who Should Own These Problems?

(18:11) The Completely Incomplete Nature

(18:27) Wrap



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After a decade+ of “blitz-scaling” companies, HR, talent, and People leaders now face an uncertain economy that has already seen big booms and busts. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact?    Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners – Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors.This show is for those who are ready to ditch conventional wisdom and figure out from first principles what works for their culture, business model, and industry, with the goal of building a resilient and enduring company. You’ll come away with real guidance for seeing around corners, building enduring companies, and carving out an impactful career – plus a newly-honed bullshit detector.Topics frequently touched on in this season include: building high performing cultures, compensation negotiation, performance reviews, company design, equity, M&As, recruiting the best talent, and how to manage your own psychology as a people leader. hrheretics.substack.com

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