The Rise of the Elite Operator with Casey Woo

The Rise of the Elite Operator with Casey Woo

Released Thursday, 7th August 2025
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The Rise of the Elite Operator with Casey Woo

The Rise of the Elite Operator with Casey Woo

The Rise of the Elite Operator with Casey Woo

The Rise of the Elite Operator with Casey Woo

Thursday, 7th August 2025
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For today's essential Heretics 101 feature, we talk to Casey Woo, founder of Operators Guild, and explore the evolution of elite business operators—generalist executives who transcend traditional titles to solve complex problems at high-growth companies, featuring insights on AI disruption, and community building.

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(01:15) WeWork Experience: Working with Adam Neumann

(02:52) Key Lessons from WeWork

(04:18) Current Market Climate & AI Impact

(05:21) The AI Revolution in Customer Support

(07:00) AI Management & the "Iron Man" Approach

(07:31) Sponsors: Planful | Metaview

(10:38) The Unstoppable Nature of AI Adoption

(11:31) The Rise of the Operator: Casey's Personal Journey

(14:02) Operators Guild: From 9 to 900 Members

(14:20) The Four Operator Personas

(15:17) Why Titles Have "Screwed Us"

(15:35) The Navy SEALs Analogy

(16:27) Building Successful Communities

(17:55) Do You Ever Miss Operating?

(18:43) The Future Path: From Operator to Founder

(19:10) Breaking the Retirement Mindset

(19:56) Advice for Operators: Have Confidence

(21:28) The Power of Team Building

(22:00) The Next Level: Capital & Founding

(22:31) Wrap



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After a decade+ of “blitz-scaling” companies, HR, talent, and People leaders now face an uncertain economy that has already seen big booms and busts. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact?    Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners – Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors.This show is for those who are ready to ditch conventional wisdom and figure out from first principles what works for their culture, business model, and industry, with the goal of building a resilient and enduring company. You’ll come away with real guidance for seeing around corners, building enduring companies, and carving out an impactful career – plus a newly-honed bullshit detector.Topics frequently touched on in this season include: building high performing cultures, compensation negotiation, performance reviews, company design, equity, M&As, recruiting the best talent, and how to manage your own psychology as a people leader. hrheretics.substack.com

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